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    <title>Victoria Mac Users Group MacTalk January 2025</title>
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      <title>New Members</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#0433FF"&gt;Steven Redden, Theresa &amp;nbsp;Gauvin and Brittany Lawrence.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <dc:creator>Terry Findlay</dc:creator>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:40:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <title>It’s Time to Move On from Bootable Backups</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/author/adam-engst/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font&gt;ADAM ENGST&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;23 December 2024&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;The latest installment in the story of how bootable Mac backups will eventually disappear started with a&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.shirtpocket.com/blog/index.php/shadedgrey/youre_a_mean_one/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;blog post&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;by Shirt Pocket Software’s Dave Nanian. In it, he explained why SuperDuper could no longer make bootable duplicates on M-series Macs running under macOS 15.2 Sequoia, blaming Apple’s asr (Apple Software Restore) utility. This tool is the only way to create a bootable backup.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;I read Nanian’s blog post shortly before publishing the final TidBITS email issue of the year, so I only had time to write a short warning (“&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/2024/12/16/macos-15-2-sequoia-breaks-bootable-backups-in-superduper/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;macOS 15.2 Sequoia Breaks Bootable Backups in SuperDuper&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,” 16 December 2024) and add a proviso to my suggestion in another article (“&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/2024/12/11/%ef%a3%bfos-x-2-updates-boost-apple-intelligence-and-more/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;OS X.2 Updates Boost Apple Intelligence and More&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,” 11 December 2024) that now was a good time to upgrade to macOS 15:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color="#464545"&gt;&lt;font color="#464545" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Until Apple fixes the bug or we learn more about what’s going on, anyone relying on a bootable backup—as opposed to a data-only backup—should hold off updating or upgrading.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Such is the problem with deadlines. I was curious if the problem with asr affected other backup apps like Carbon Copy Cloner and ChronoSync, but no information was available at that point. However, now that the necessary details have emerged, I have updated my recommendation on updating and upgrading.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Tests Confirm Problems on M-Series Macs&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;First, I confirmed that the problem was real but limited to M-series Macs. On my Intel-based 27-inch iMac,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;SuperDuper&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;had no problem completing a backup, and I was easily able to boot my iMac from that backup. However, when I tried the same backup on my M1 MacBook Air, SuperDuper failed quickly with the Resource Busy error that Dave Nanian mentioned.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/SuperDuper-failure.png" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/SuperDuper-failure.png" alt="SuperDuper failure" width="1172" height="376"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;I also verified that changing SuperDuper’s settings to use the standard “Backup – all files” script with the Smart Update copying option successfully created a data-only backup of the M1 MacBook Air.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/SuperDuper-data-only-backup.png" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/SuperDuper-data-only-backup.png" alt="SuperDuper data-only configuration" width="2292" height="1132"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Next up, I tried&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.econtechnologies.com/chronosync/overview.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;ChronoSync&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. It wasn’t encouraging to start, with its assistant warning me,&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;“Note: Bootable Backups have been losing relevance on recent versions of Apple hardware and will eventually not be supported. You should consider creating a Data Volume Backup instead.”&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;The app’s developers weren’t being alarmist. Two attempts to make a bootable backup failed, and Econ Technologies confirmed that the reason was the asr bug.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/ChronoSync-failure.png" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/ChronoSync-failure.png" alt="ChronoSync failure" width="873" height="608"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://bombich.com/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;Carbon Copy Cloner&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;’s in-app text was similarly down on bootable backups, noting,&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;“Creating a bootable copy of the source OS requires an Apple-proprietary procedure. CCC provides this functionality in a ‘best effort’ manner. Please click the ‘?’ button to the right to learn about the caveats associated with this procedure.”&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;CCC also failed twice, though again, I don’t definitively know why. The destination SSD has worked fine in the past, and SuperDuper’s data-only backup to it completed with no errors, so I don’t believe it’s a hardware problem.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/CCC-failure.png" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/CCC-failure.png" alt="CCC failure" width="2360" height="1766"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Regardless of whether asr caused these problems, such uncertainty is problematic when it comes to backups. I feel terrible for Shirt Pocket Software, Econ Technologies, and Bombich Software because they’re trying to provide a longstanding feature that users want—bootable backups—and they’re entirely at the mercy of Apple’s asr tool to do so. As we’ll see, Apple has relatively little interest in supporting bootable backups.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;From the Horse’s Mouth: No More Bootable Backups&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Shortly after I completed my testing, Mike Bombich posted a blog entry that&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://bombich.com/blog/2024/12/19/bootable-backups-have-been-deprecated-for-several-years" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;shared information from a 2020 call with Apple&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. (He had missed the start of the kerfuffle, being away to help a family member when macOS 15.2 shipped.) As he outlines in the post, Apple made it clear that it was willing to address problems associated with making backups&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;“as long as it did not require making a compromise to platform security.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;From Apple’s perspective, allowing system files to be copied inherently introduces opportunities for attackers to modify system components. Since macOS 10.15 Catalina, the separate system volume is immutable, locked, and validated using cryptography—what Apple calls the “&lt;a href="https://support.apple.com/guide/security/signed-system-volume-security-secd698747c9/web" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;signed system volume&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.” Any method that allows it to be copied onto a bootable drive must preserve the same verification to ensure nothing has changed.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;To mitigate this move away from easily making bootable backups, Apple has invested a lot of effort into macOS Recovery and Migration Assistant. It is now trivial and streamlined to boot a Mac into macOS Recovery, install macOS, and restore user files using Migration Assistant. With a separate system volume, a reinstallation just creates a new, secured, immutable volume and then copies your user files to the data volume. Because Apple controls every part of that process, there’s no worry about the security of the system being compromised.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;The other aspect of this topic is the value of an external boot drive to an M-series Mac. While Macs with Apple silicon allow booting from external drives, they remain dependent on their internal storage during that process, as Glenn Fleishman wrote in “&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/2021/05/27/an-m1-mac-cant-boot-from-an-external-drive-if-its-internal-drive-is-dead/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;An M1 Mac Can’t Boot from an External Drive If Its Internal Drive Is Dead&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,” 27 May 2021.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color="#464545"&gt;&lt;font color="#464545" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;The fresh information here is that an M1-based Mac relies on its internal SSD to allow external drives to boot. If the internal SSD has failed or been entirely erased—it contains several hidden volumes—you can no longer boot from an otherwise valid volume on an external drive. Why would Apple do this? To increase security.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Mike Bombich closes his post by explaining that Carbon Copy Cloner will continue to support the Legacy Bootable Copy Assistant because it remains useful for Intel-based Macs. But he stresses that no one should base their backup strategy on bootable backups. While Apple may fix the asr bug, the writing is on the wall, with Bombich saying:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color="#464545"&gt;&lt;font color="#464545" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Apple made it unambiguously clear that “bootable backups” and System cloning are fundamentally incompatible with platform security.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;I’ve been preaching the need to move on from bootable backups since early 2021, when I wrote “&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/2021/02/23/the-role-of-bootable-duplicates-in-a-modern-backup-strategy/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;The Role of Bootable Duplicates in a Modern Backup Strategy&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;” (23 February 2021). A slightly updated version of the backup strategy I recommended in that article would include:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Versioned backup:&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;Everyone should make versioned backups using Time Machine to an external drive, preferably an SSD for&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://eclecticlight.co/2024/12/18/is-it-worth-storing-time-machine-backups-on-a-faster-drive/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;higher performance&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and lower environmental noise. Versioned backups are essential for recovering from corruption or inadvertent user error by allowing you to restore an earlier version of a file, a deleted file, or the contents of a deleted folder. Other apps can make versioned backups, but Time Machine backups are particularly useful because of how Apple integrates them into macOS. It’s a quick process to go back in time and select files, folders, or volumes—though the interface is archaic and awkward—and Time Machine snapshots are the basis of migrations and system restores. Time Machine is far from perfect, but it has insider access to technical and security changes in macOS and generally works acceptably.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Internet or offsite backup:&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;Local backups are worthless if all your equipment is stolen or damaged by fire or water. Historically, the recommendation was to rotate backup drives offsite, but in the modern world, an encrypted Internet backup service like&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.backblaze.com/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;Backblaze&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;is much easier.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Nightly data-only duplicate:&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;Data-only duplicates are still a worthwhile part of any backup strategy. Duplicating your data every night adds diversity by relying on different software if Time Machine falls prey to bugs, putting a backup on another external drive (don’t configure Time Machine and your duplicate to share a drive), and eliminating the need for special software to restore data. Plus, if you have to switch to another Mac, a duplicate would quickly let you get back to work on your files. Plus, as Dave Nanian pointed out to me in an email, there’s no downside in making a duplicate bootable even if you don’t anticipate relying on its bootability.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Cloud-based access to key data:&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;Cloud storage is a weak form of backup, and it’s not a required part of a backup strategy because some people can’t or don’t wish to store data in the cloud. But, for many, cloud storage is an excellent way to access essential data from any device or location—and it may offer you a last-ditch way to retrieve lost files. For instance, $9.99 per month gets you 2 TB of iCloud Drive storage, and Apple’s&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT206985" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;Desktop &amp;amp; Documents Folders syncing feature&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;could make it particularly easy to get back to work on another Mac. A similar amount of money would provide 1 or 2 TB of storage on&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.dropbox.com/individual/plans-comparison" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;Dropbox&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://one.google.com/about" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;Google Drive&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, or&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/onedrive/compare-onedrive-plans?activetab=tab%3aprimaryr1" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;Microsoft OneDrive&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Backup Mac or another device:&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;Given how hard it is for anyone but Apple to repair Macs, if you can’t afford days of downtime, think about what device you could use for your work if your Mac were to fail and how you’d get your data to it. It might be a laptop you mainly use when traveling, your previous desktop Mac, or even an iPad. Just be sure to take your backup device out for a test run before you need it.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;I realize that most people won’t have all five of these, so if you have to choose, I recommend Time Machine paired with Backblaze to protect against disasters that would affect your Mac and Time Machine drive. But whatever you do, please make backups. Losing data is a matter of when, not if.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Finally, let’s return to the question of updating or upgrading to macOS 15.2 Sequoia. Assuming you’re willing to change any bootable backups to data-only backups, I think it’s safe to proceed.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:35:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <title>How to fix System Data filling your iPhone's storage</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;a href="https://appleinsider.com/editor/malcolm+owen" title="Malcolm Owen" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;Malcolm Owen&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;May 29, 2022&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Other System Data issues in iOS can quickly fill up all available iPhone storage.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/48623-94936-iphone-storage-max-xl.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;&lt;img src="https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/48623-94936-iphone-storage-max-xl.jpg"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif"&gt;Your&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://appleinsider.com/inside/iphone" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#222222" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif"&gt;iPhone&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif"&gt;may have low storage because it's been consumed by System Data, which can potentially consume all available capacity. Here's how to regain space when things get too bloated to function.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Storage capacity is a significant issue for mobile device users. The available space on an iPhone,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://appleinsider.com/inside/ipad" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;iPad&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and even a&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://appleinsider.com/inside/mac" title="Mac" data-kpt="1" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;Mac&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;a sensitive concern for everyone.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Users with expansive storage capacities have less trouble with it than most. Those saving money with more modest storage may be more hard-pressed.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Usually, you can manage apps by offloading or deleting them to save storage. Maintaining stored videos and files, using cloud storage more, and other techniques can also help to tame storage usage.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Sure, deleting files and wiping the cache of apps can help, but it won't help an occasional problem involving System Data. Sometimes, System Data can grow to a massive size, and there's very little you can do to fix it.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2 data-anchor="whats-system-data-on-an-iphone" style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#222222" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;What's System Data on an iPhone?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;By checking your iPhone's storage usage, you will find that&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://appleinsider.com/inside/ios" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;iOS&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;handily sorts out its data usage into several categories, including Apps, Photos, Media, iOS, and System Data.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;These are all self-explanatory, with Photos and Media consisting of images, videos, and other typical media-style files. Apps refer to apps downloaded from the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://appleinsider.com/inside/app-store" title="App Store" data-kpt="1" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;App Store&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and caches of data for each, while iOS is the storage consumed by the operating system itself.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2 data-anchor="how-to-check-storage-usage-in-ios" style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#222222" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;How to check storage usage in iOS&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Open&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Settings&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Tap&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;General&lt;/strong&gt;, then&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;iPhone Storage&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;The bar at the top will graphically show you what storage is being used.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;The list of apps below shows individual app storage usage. Tap each to see the app size and consumption of related files and options to offload the app and delete the data.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;At the bottom of the list are listings for iOS and System Data.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;System Data, and what the Settings app refers to as "Other System Data," includes many files not covered by other categories.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/48623-121480-systemdata1-xl.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;&lt;img src="https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/48623-121480-systemdata1-xl.jpg" alt="System Data doesn't usually take tens of gigabytes of storage, but problems happen. " height="948"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font color="#A7A9AD"&gt;System Data doesn't usually take tens of gigabytes of storage, but problems happen.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;The definition within iOS is that System Data "includes caches, logs, and other resources currently in use by the system." This doesn't state what the data is, but it can consist of various logs, temporary data stores, and other elements that aren't strictly considered part of any of the listed apps.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Then some elements are used by iOS but aren't owned by a particular app. For example, downloading different&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://appleinsider.com/inside/siri" title="Siri" data-kpt="1" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;Siri&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;voices or installing fonts can expand this section, but they aren't defined as being used by just one app or the operating system itself.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2 data-anchor="why-is-system-data-using-all-of-my-iphone-storage" style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#222222" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Why is System Data using all of my iPhone storage?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;This data will also "fluctuate according to the system needs." This means that temporary data can be written to the storage as System Data, removed when iOS doesn't need it anymore.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;However, the problem is that you can't see what the types of data used in this category consist of, nor can you delete it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Generally speaking, Other System Data can be a few gigabytes in size at first. Depending on how you use the iPhone, it can grow and shrink by several gigabytes over time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;The bloating problem comes into play if that change in the size of Other System Data continues on an upward trajectory. Over time, some users may see that their iPhone's System Data takes up a lot of space, possibly tens of gigabytes.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;In the case of one&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;AppleInsider&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;writer, Other System Data grew to almost 85 gigabytes, consuming virtually all of the available remaining storage and causing device problems.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;It is unknown exactly why this occurs, but it is likely from one or more caches or logs being continually added to over time. Crucially, these logs may not be deleted at a pace to keep up with writes.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Left for too long, this can be all-consuming.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Since there's no way to see what caused it directly or selectively delete problematic System Data elements, users may be left with very few options available.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2 data-anchor="how-to-cut-down-on-system-data-usage" style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#222222" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;How to cut down on System Data usage&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;You can do a few things to cut down the amount of System Data being used, and they vary in severity of what you have to do to your iPhone and its data. This guide will start with the least intensive option.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Remember that these are intended to be taken after other reasonable measures, such as deleting unwanted videos or other files to free up space.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Also, remember to back up your iPhone before continuing. The last thing you want to do is delete precious data when trying to recover space.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3 data-anchor="safari-and-messages" style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#222222" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Safari and Messages&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;The first way is to try and cut down on cache usage by a select number of Apple-produced apps. This can include caches by&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://appleinsider.com/inside/safari" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;Safari&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://appleinsider.com/inside/imessage" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;Messages&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, which can sometimes take up the System Data category.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/48623-121481-clearhistorydata-xl.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;&lt;img src="https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/48623-121481-clearhistorydata-xl.jpg" alt="You can manage Messages and Safari's cache to try and cut down System Data usage. " height="948"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font color="#A7A9AD"&gt;You can manage Messages and Safari's cache to try and cut down System Data usage.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;For Messages, this could be as simple as opening Settings, then tapping Messages, and scrolling down to Message History. Here you can change how long you "Keep Messages" from "Forever" to a lower figure such as one year or 30 days.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Clearing the Safari Cache is a little bit more involving but still useful.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3 data-anchor="how-to-clear-the-safari-cache-in-ios" style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#222222" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;How to clear the Safari cache in iOS&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Open&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Settings&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Tap&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Safari&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Scroll down and tap&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Clear History and Website Data&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;On the warning pop-up, select a timeframe and then tap&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Clear History&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3 data-anchor="perapp-caches" style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#222222" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Per-app caches&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;On the off chance it is a particular app causing the problem, you could try to delete the app if you have a clue as to what app is being wasteful with space. For example, apps that use a lot of videos can potentially use such caching, but without necessarily deleting the caches afterward.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/48623-121482-offloaddeleteapp-xl.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;&lt;img src="https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/48623-121482-offloaddeleteapp-xl.jpg" alt="Offloading and deleting apps may wipe some errant caches. " height="948"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font color="#A7A9AD"&gt;Offloading and deleting apps may wipe some errant caches.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;There's no guarantee this will delete the problematic cache capacity you want to be removed. But it should still reduce how much of it is in active use.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;It is advisable to try offloading the app before a full delete, namely removing the app but retaining your related documents and data.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3 data-anchor="how-to-offload-or-delete-apps-in-ios" style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#222222" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;How to offload or delete apps in iOS&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Open&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Settings&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Tap&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;General&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Tap&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;iPhone Storage&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Scroll and tap the&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;relevant app&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Tap&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Offload App&lt;/strong&gt;, then&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Offload App&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;to confirm.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Alternately, tap&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Delete App&lt;/strong&gt;, then&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Delete App&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;to confirm.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3 data-anchor="backup-restoration" style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#222222" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Backup Restoration&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;The nuclear option is to restore your iPhone from a backup. This entails backing up all data on the iPhone, factory resetting the iPhone, then restoring from the backup.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;While you will get back all of your user data and continue to use apps, you may have issues involving two-factor authentication apps and other related problems following a device setup.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/48623-121483-erasereset-xl.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333"&gt;&lt;img src="https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/48623-121483-erasereset-xl.jpg" alt="Backing up and resetting the iPhone is the last real option available. " height="948"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font color="#A7A9AD"&gt;Backing up and resetting the iPhone is the last real option available.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;In the&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;AppleInsider&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;editorial staffer's case, restoring from a backup did solve the problem, so it is worth taking the time to do this if you can.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3 data-anchor="how-to-backup-an-iphone-and-restore-from-backup" style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#222222" face="Inter, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;How to backup an iPhone and restore from backup.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;To backup the data,&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;connect&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;the iPhone to your Mac or PC, and open either&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Finder or iTunes&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Select the&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;iPhone&lt;/strong&gt;, then select the&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;General&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;tab.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Select&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;"Back up all the data on your iPhone to this Mac."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Tick "Encrypt local backup" to preserve account passwords and any Health data.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Select&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Back Up Now&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;and wait for it to complete.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Disconnect&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;the iPhone.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Open&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Settings&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;and select&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;General&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;then&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Transfer or Reset iPhone&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Tap&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Erase All Content and Settings&lt;/strong&gt;. Tap&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Continue&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;and follow the prompts to complete.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;After it is wiped,&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;connect&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;the iPhone back to the Mac or PC, open&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Finder or iTunes&lt;/strong&gt;, and select the&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;iPhone&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Under&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;General&lt;/strong&gt;, click&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Restore Backup&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Select the&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;most recent backup&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;you just created, then click&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Restore&lt;/strong&gt;. Follow the on-screen prompts.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
      <link>https://victoriamacusersgroup.wildapricot.org/page-18134/13445282</link>
      <guid>https://victoriamacusersgroup.wildapricot.org/page-18134/13445282</guid>
      <dc:creator>Terry Findlay</dc:creator>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:34:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <title>Functional and Conceptual Pitfalls in Siri’s ChatGPT Integration</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/author/adam-engst/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font&gt;ADAM ENGST&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;13 December 2024&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Apple has integrated ChatGPT into Siri with the second set of Apple Intelligence features that debuted in this week’s operating system releases (see “&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/2024/12/11/%ef%a3%bfos-x-2-updates-boost-apple-intelligence-and-more/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;OS X.2 Updates Boost Apple Intelligence and More&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,” 11 December 2024). Don’t get too excited.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;I’ve been trying to use this feature in the betas and now in the release versions of macOS 15.2 and iOS 18.2, and if anything, it has increased my frustration when interacting with Siri. Worse, I fear that some deeper issues may argue against the integration of Siri and ChatGPT.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Functional Problems&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;A few of the functional problems I’ve encountered include:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;You must enable ChatGPT separately for each device, so the first time you issue an involved query to Siri on a new device, your query will fail, and you’ll be prompted to enable ChatGPT. It doesn’t feel welcoming.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;On my M1 MacBook Air, I am continually told that ChatGPT is unavailable and to try again later, even while it works fine on my iPhone 16 Pro. My MacBook Air is seemingly cursed because&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://talk.tidbits.com/t/is-apple-intelligence-summarization-in-mail-on-the-mac-working-for-others/29310?u=ace" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;Apple Intelligence summarization never works&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;on it, either. A call to Apple support is in my future.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;For privacy reasons, Siri asks if you want to use ChatGPT on each prompt that goes beyond what Siri can answer internally or with a simple search. That’s annoying, but you can eliminate the confirmation step in Settings &amp;gt; Apple Intelligence &amp;amp; Siri &amp;gt; ChatGPT &amp;gt; Confirm ChatGPT Requests.&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/Siri-ChatGPT-scaled.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#80298E"&gt;&lt;img src="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/Siri-ChatGPT-scaled.jpg" alt="ChatGPT in Siri" width="2560" height="2560"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;At least ChatGPT got the general area of Settings right.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;On my M1 MacBook Air, triggering Siri by clicking its Dock icon brings up Type to Siri, and I have to click the microphone button to be able to dictate to it. That’s a change: on my 27-inch iMac, which doesn’t support Apple Intelligence, clicking the Siri button causes Siri to listen to the microphone instantly.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;On the iPhone, you can invoke Siri by holding the side button or using “Hey Siri.” However, if you want to continue the conversation with ChatGPT, you may find that Siri doesn’t always listen while its splooshy animation jiggles around the edge of the screen. Holding the side button down was more reliable but more awkward. Similar animations appear at times when you can’t dictate, too, so you can’t assume fancy graphics mean Siri is listening.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Depending on what words you use, Siri may give you a seemingly random response or provide Web search results rather than allowing you to engage with ChatGPT. Those random responses may even come during a discussion with ChatGPT. To ensure your prompts go to ChatGPT, say its name somewhere in your prompt.&lt;br&gt;
  &lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/Siri-conversation-scaled.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;&lt;img src="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/Siri-conversation-scaled.jpg" alt="Siri's conversational flubs" width="1558" height="2560"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Although you can talk to ChatGPT using Siri, its responses always come back as text. That’s fine in many cases, but anyone accustomed to ChatGPT’s Advanced Voice Mode (where ChatGPT provides spoken responses) will be disappointed.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;The longer your prompt to ChatGPT, the more likely it is that Siri will stop listening at some point and send whatever it has up to that point. If you think it’s irritating when people interrupt you while you’re speaking, just wait until Siri indicates it’s bored with what you’re saying.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;There’s no way to review the ChatGPT transcript to refer to previous responses—you can see only the last response. However, if you sign into your ChatGPT account in Settings &amp;gt; Apple Intelligence &amp;amp; Siri &amp;gt; ChatGPT, you can view the full transcripts of all your chats. (Signing into my ChatGPT account also fails on the M1 MacBook Air. Cursed, I say!) At least you can delete abortive transcripts that you mistakenly triggered with Siri.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Deeper Concerns&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;As frustrating as these issues are, I have deeper concerns. Is Siri a good way to interact with ChatGPT? Will increasing the number of ways Siri can mess up reduce our desire to use it? We hoped Siri’s Apple Intelligence enhancements—and particularly the ChatGPT integration—would make Siri less frustrating. Might the reverse be true?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Apple markets Siri as a digital assistant, capable of carrying out simple commands and performing highly directed searches. In my experience, Siri works fairly well for playing music using artist names, controlling HomeKit devices, setting timers, and making reminders. Some searches, such as asking about tomorrow’s weather, also work reasonably well.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;But using Siri to trigger Web searches is frustrating, particularly if you become accustomed to using Siri on a HomePod. Such prompts usually generate, “I’ve found some Web results. I can show them to you if you ask again from your iPhone.” rather than a useful response. Also, although Apple has made slight improvements in Siri’s ability to maintain context in a conversation of late, we have 13 years of experience in failure with anything but single, separate commands. If Siri heads off down an incorrect response path, our only recourse is to shut it up with, “Hey Siri, stop,” and then issue a differently worded request rather than redirecting the conversation.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;In contrast, ChatGPT cannot carry out commands of any sort, and it’s not a search engine, although OpenAI recently gave paying ChatGPT Plus users access to such capabilities. Much has been written about how generative AI systems get facts wrong and make things up, and that’s not wrong—if you want to search the Web, use a search engine. ChatGPT is far more valuable for analyzing data, creating content, and exploring unfamiliar topics. It’s designed for conversation, with follow-up queries, comments, and additional information necessary for optimal results. Siri and ChatGPT simply don’t do the same sort of things.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Apple doesn’t want us to anthropomorphize Siri, but that’s nearly impossible when speaking to a digital assistant that responds with a natural-sounding voice. So when Siri responds randomly, sometimes stops listening to you before you’re done speaking, and is generally a lousy conversationalist, it’s impossible to avoid the feelings of pique that a person with similar conversational traits would trigger. You wouldn’t keep trying with such a person, and many of us won’t keep trying with Siri either.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;What’s up with Siri’s seemingly random responses? In my conversation above, Siri suggested I call emergency services, created a reminder, did a Web search, thought I was asking for driving directions, and was just generally confused a few times. Yes, my prompts were an attempt to speak naturally, but isn’t Siri supposed to be able to handle that now?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;If Apple Intelligence is going to improve Siri, it has to understand what’s being asked and do something sensible. In the past, Siri’s failure mode was mostly binary—it either did what you wanted or failed in a predictable way. With Apple Intelligence, Siri seems primed to fail in ever broader and more unpredictable ways, which could reduce our enthusiasm for using it for even simple tasks.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Apple will undoubtedly keep working on Siri, but I worry that it will be too little, too late. From experience, I know that I’m unlikely to retry a particular task with Siri after failing enough times, as has been the case with trying to add text to a note in Notes.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:32:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <title>Beware Obituary Scam Sites and Fake iPhone Security Warnings</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/author/adam-engst/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;ADAM ENGST&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;6 December 2024&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;A longtime TidBITS reader recently contacted me in a slight panic. While searching on his iPhone for an obituary, he tapped a possible result in the Google search results. The site he was sent to displayed several dire-sounding warnings about how his iPhone had been infected.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;He freaked out a bit but immediately closed Safari and hoped all was well. However, 10 minutes later, he received an email from 1Password informing him of a sign-in from a new device or browser extension. That threw him for a loop, so he contacted 1Password support, who confirmed it was a legitimate, coincidental message—seemingly unrelated to the malicious site visit.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/1Password-alert.png" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/1Password-alert.png" alt="1Password sign-in notification" width="815" height="421"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;I want to share how I helped reassure him that there was no reason to worry so you can repeat the process if you or someone you know experiences a similar Web-based malware lure.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Examining the 1Password Notification&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;I was first curious about the IP address that 1Password identified. When I asked my friend to check it using&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://whatsmyip.com/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;What’s My IP&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, he confirmed that it was indeed his IP address as the source of his new sign-in. That confirmed it was at least one of his devices on his network, not a malicious party elsewhere on the Internet.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;While it’s not inconceivable that malware could have compromised his device and signed into 1Password from it, it’s quite unlikely due to an extra step 1Password requires: you need both your account password and a Secret Key to log in. (The Secret Key is essentially a second randomly generated password that’s combined with the account password to create the encryption key that protects your data. It’s only stored locally on your devices.) It’s vanishingly unlikely that malware could somehow have exfiltrated the Secret Key from local storage, decrypted it, and combined it with the account password to log in. Nothing is impossible, but malware with such a capability would be used against high-value targets by criminals or governments, not against random people browsing the Web.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;I can’t explain why my friend received this notification despite not signing in to 1Password manually on his iPhone or Mac. Research suggests that the message can be triggered by force-quitting Safari, using iCloud Private Relay, clearing the browser’s cache or history, updating the 1Password extension, having a dynamic IP address change (which causes 1Password to think it’s running on a new device or location), or updating 1Password or Safari. Unexplained 1Password notifications seem to be uncommon, so it’s not that these activities&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;will&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;trigger a sign-in notification, just that they&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;might&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Investigating the Malicious Website&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Based on years of reading about iPhone security, I’m confident that iOS is hardened against attacks from random websites. In part, this is because Apple’s hardening efforts have been so successful that any ethically challenged person who discovered such an exploit would sell it for millions or use it for targeted attacks against high-profile cryptocurrency holders, as one example. Normal people would&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://support.apple.com/en-us/102549?t" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;report it to Apple&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;So I repeated my friend’s Google search and found the site he had clicked as well as several others, all with article post dates of 13 November 2024. The offending site was sloppily built in WordPress and contains what seem to be AI-generated obituaries. You can tell from sentences like “His sudden passing on [insert date] has left those who knew him grappling with loss.” Other signs include the sketchy gambling ads on the pages and the fact that the name of the deceased changes between the title and the text. Oops.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/Obit-scam-site-scaled.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/Obit-scam-site-scaled.jpg" alt="Obituary scam site" width="2560" height="1694"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;When loaded, the sites quickly started displaying dire-sounding alerts that claimed my iPhone had been compromised—and suggested a system cleaner app or VPN. Here are some examples.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/Obit-scam-alerts-scaled.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/Obit-scam-alerts-scaled.jpg" alt="Examples of fake iPhone security alerts" width="1289" height="2560"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Tapping any of the links loaded a second page that immediately redirected to a system cleaner or VPN app in the App Store. I don’t know if these apps are legitimate, though I have my suspicions. I may be willing to navigate to malicious sites in Safari, but I’m not so foolhardy as to install potentially malicious apps on a non-test device.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/Obit-scam-apps-scaled.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/Obit-scam-apps-scaled.jpg" alt="iPhone apps advertised by fake security alerts" width="1934" height="2560"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;I won’t link to these apps, but I have reported them to Apple for investigation.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Lessons&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;What should we take away from this experience?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Coincidences happen:&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;My friend was worried because of the 1Password notification, but as far as I can tell, it was merely a coincidence. Just because two events occur close to one another doesn’t mean they’re necessarily related.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Don’t panic:&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;had it right: Just because a website displays an alarming alert doesn’t mean that anything bad has happened. The scammers are trying to bypass your rational mind by invoking fear and danger.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Close the tab or window:&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;To make the scam website go away, tap Safari’s tab button in the lower-right corner of an iPhone or iPad and close the offending tab. On a Mac, close the window with Command-W. If you can’t get the tab button to appear on an iPhone or iPad, tap near the very top of the page—this often reveals the Safari framing.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Don’t install random apps:&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;If a website you didn’t intentionally visit suggests that you install an app and then redirects you to the App Store, don’t do it. Although Apple reviews all apps in the App Store, its vetting process is far from foolproof. Examples exist of legitimate apps being erroneously rejected while dubious ones slip through. You should always assess app trustworthiness based on factors beyond its inclusion in the App Store.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Obituaries are easily faked:&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;Perhaps the most troubling aspect of this scam is how it preys on people who are grieving, particularly the elderly. Since obituaries are often relatively similar, they’re easy to fake, and it wouldn’t be difficult to create a site that would automatically generate obituaries for every imaginable name. (Similarly offensive are sites that leverage obituaries to generate search traffic and thus ad impressions with&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/91162990/ai-written-obituaries-are-compounding-peoples-grief" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;poor AI-generated obituaries&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/19/us/fake-obituary-scams-ai-cec/index.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;including of living people&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Stay alert out there.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:30:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <title>Apple Takes Over iCloud Passwords Add-On for Firefox</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/author/adam-engst/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;ADAM ENGST&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;6 December 2024&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#303030" face="proximanova, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;In “&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/2024/04/01/using-apples-icloud-passwords-outside-safari/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;Using Apple’s iCloud Passwords Outside Safari&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;” (1 April 2024), I wrote:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color="#464545" face="proximanova, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font color="#464545" face="proximanova, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Although Apple released iCloud Passwords only for Chromium browsers—and it seems to work equally well in all the variants I’ve tried—the company has done nothing for Firefox users. However, an independent developer named Aurélien Garnier recently published a Firefox add-on also called&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/icloud-passwords/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;iCloud Passwords&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, so that’s an option for those running Sonoma or recent versions of Windows—it doesn’t work for earlier versions of macOS. It’s not yet well-known, with only 716 users last I checked (versus 2 million for the iCloud Passwords Chrome extension), but I’ve installed it and verified that it works. Although I’m a little hesitant to recommend an independent add-on that interacts with a system-wide password store, it’s open source, and anyone can&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://github.com/au2001/icloud-passwords-firefox" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;view its code on GitHub&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#303030" face="proximanova, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Those who have been dissuaded from using macOS 15 Sequoia’s Passwords app as their password manager because of a reliance on Firefox can now make the move with confidence: Apple has taken over the previously independent&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/icloud-passwords/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;iCloud Passwords&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;add-on for Firefox.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/iCloud-Passwords-Firefox.png" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#303030" face="proximanova, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://tidbits.com/uploads/2024/12/iCloud-Passwords-Firefox.png" alt="iCloud Passwords for Firefox" width="853" height="430"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#303030" face="proximanova, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;On 4 December 2024, iCloud Passwords for Firefox developer Aurélien Garnier updated the add-on’s README.md file on its GitHub repository with:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color="#464545" face="proximanova, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font color="#464545" face="proximanova, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;The&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/icloud-passwords/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;AMO (&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://addons.mozilla.org/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;addons.mozilla.org&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/icloud-passwords/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;listing of this extension was transferred to Apple Inc. They are now the sole owners in charge of maintaining their own official iCloud Passwords extension. This repository and source code are no longer linked in any way to it apart from historical reasons.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#303030" face="proximanova, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;It remains unclear if Apple acquired the code or hired Garnier, although his LinkedIn profile suggests he remains a technical lead at the Web development agency&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.avicenne.studio/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font color="#265281"&gt;Avicenne Studio&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;in Paris.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#303030" face="proximanova, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple replaced this iCloud Passwords add-on with an official version; it could be that the company simply hasn’t gotten around to such a transition yet.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#303030" face="proximanova, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Regardless, it’s a positive move to see Apple extending its password management features to non-Apple browsers and platforms. Although the current iCloud Passwords add-on doesn’t work in Firefox for Windows, it seems likely that Apple will eventually add Windows support to match its iCloud Passwords extension for Chrome.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
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